EBF5: Free Version

Apparently a lot of people are still visiting this page. In case you haven’t heard – Flash doesn’t work in most browsers any more. The best way to play the free version of EBF5 would be using BlueMaxima’s Flashpoint project, but I strongly suggest buying the full game on Steam. There’s a lot of extra content in there.

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        1. Anonymous

          but epic battle fantasy collections and you can again play with this
          or download pirate version if you need

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    1. Andrew Risser

      use palemoon browser and uninstall then reinstall adobe player and disable automatic updates and you can play any adobe or shockwave games on the palemoon browser only

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  2. John Boulmetis

    When I see Red from Angry Birds at the my mind immediately went to The Angry Birds Movies 3: Red F***ing Dies

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      1. Matt Roszak Post author

        I recommend BlueMaxima’s free Flashpoint Infinity app, or buying the game on Steam.
        The SuperNova plugin might allow you to play in a browser, but it won’t be as reliable as the other two options.

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        1. Homie McFry

          Supernova has an issue now where it freezes the game and asks if the file can store stuff on your computer in a windows vista popup. You can’t click either allow or deny. Just wanted to put that out there. I miss free ebf5.

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          1. Matt Roszak Post author

            You should check out BlueMaxima’s Flashpoint for playing Flash/web games. Should be no issues there.

  3. YEET!

    This is the best way I have ever seen a free version of a game work. It works as a full game, but you can port your save to the full version with scaling dungeons and beat those because they will have an equal level to you, making your progress in the free one not unbalance things.

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  4. ZACK SPINOGATTI

    also matt roazak (kupo games) is there a way that you can help flash this is a flash site seance it died today i can’t play and i don’t have stream so please help us all that love your game and rise to the top and help flash to make this site good for playing please.

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  5. ZACK SPINOGATTI

    hey matt flash died and i cant play no more i loved the epic battle fantisy games and im so ad that flash gat killed for andria not suporting it no more so if there is a way that i dont have to buy the game and still play please tell!!

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    1. Jes

      Hey. I’m not Matt, but… do you have a backup file? If you have one, then you can recover it. also you mightve hit erase accidentally check the autosave

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      1. scott preston

        I don’t have one. I just copy and paste this comment. You didn’t have to answer. But thanks for answering away.

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          1. J.D.

            Well I don’t know if this is just a coincidence, but I found out yesterday night I suffered the same fate. I’m not currently in an ebf5 playthrough; so I only check in here occasionally. According to my browser history, the last time I visited this page was Nov. 17, so the wipe must have happened sometime between Nov. 17 and Dec. 23. All my other saves on this website are gone too.

            It hurts. It really hurts.

    1. IDoNotExist

      Thing Is, You Did Not Specify What Level You Did It At, You Could’ve Been Level 50 And Got A Lucky Wooly Mammoth Roll.

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  6. dukie

    Just defeated the cosmic gigalith and the devourer on epic mode in 2.9 seconds. Lets see if any of you can do.

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    1. Matt Roszak Post author

      That’s fake news. You simply can’t play Flash games in your browser any more – they work just fine everywhere else.

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      1. Jeff

        How do I play other than my browser? Can I download it somewhere?
        Also, a noncreative question: Is there an EBF6 in the works?

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        1. Matt Roszak Post author

          I recommend BlueMaxima’s free Flashpoint Infinity app, or buying the game on Steam.
          The SuperNova plugin might allow you to play in a browser, but it won’t be as reliable as the other two options.

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  7. cool giraffe

    so after the ending it just kicked me out to the home screen I got the badge but my save didn’t think I beat the game so now i don’t feel that satisfied. is that supposed to happen?

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  8. nabilzings

    I have a question for you Matt Roszak, after December 2020, it’s said that Flash Player will disappear and that HTML5 will replace it. What i’m scared of is that I need Flash Player to play EBF5 or any other of your games. So here is my question, even after December 2020 when Flash will disappear, will I still be able to play EBF5? I’m pretty worried and I just wouldn’t want your games to just disappear. I was a fan of you from my childhood and I loved playing Epic Battle Fantasy, even that I played all of them. But. are you up on the subject? Please answer me as soon as you can. 🙂

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  9. Entman

    I call hax.

    I just defeated the cosmic gigalith on epic mode and then the devourer killed me on its first turn because the gigalith used up my auto revive when it died

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    1. Entman

      It was such a repetitive thing to kill the gigalith

      Matt + Space suit + various swords, depending on element + Tr*force + Green cross + N*vi = epic mode gigalith

      Gigalith: LASERS, LASERS, LASERS, GIANT ELECTRIC STAB!!!
      Matt: No, no, he’s getting up again.

      The gigalith is annoying because it changes elements all the time so I’m like
      “Ok, ice needle and 2 turns of auto rev, time to use cleaver-”
      *ELEMENT CHANGE*
      “Fricking-“

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    2. nabilzings

      I have a question for you Matt Roszak, after December 2020, it’s said that Flash Player will disappear and that HTML5 will replace it. What i’m scared of is that I need Flash Player to play EBF5 or any other of your games. So here is my question, even after December 2020 when Flash will disappear, will I still be able to play EBF5? I’m pretty worried and I just wouldn’t want your games to just disappear. I was a fan of you from my childhood and I loved playing Epic Battle Fantasy, even that I played all of them. But. are you up on the subject? Please answer me as soon as you can. 🙂

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  10. Adrian Fields

    Where’s the link? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering link! No EBF here for me ;-(
    Sysinfo: Windows XP, Firefox 52.9.0

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    1. Anonymous

      just virus him in first round and then tank his shots. when youre about to capture him just put all other debuffs and status effects.

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  11. TheDarkExcalibur

    Man. Quarantine’s either the best or worst thing that’s happened to me.
    Because I can’t meet my friends, I can no longer go on biking trips and I’m stuck on online school.
    But I’m BALD so that’s a good thing, I stay at home which means after classes I can immediately play video games and online school isn’t that bad.

    I read a conversation about 4 people before my birthday. It was like that episode in adventure time where Jake’s kid found a diary and couldn’t stop reading it.
    That actually looked relatable. Because I got an Ace in English, I never got the hang of my National language, or heck, even my native language.
    What I’m trying to say is… spend more time on subjects you don’t like. Because maybe you’ll need to put it to good use.
    BTW the conversation was on this site.

    If you wanna hear more just comment me. cause I’m stuck trying to beat this on Epic mode.

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    1. Matt Roszak Post author

      The Flashplayer browser plugin is discontinued. I’m not really making browser games anymore, so it’s not a big deal.

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    1. Mia

      OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!! EBF6 is outttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

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        1. Emily

          Yaloh! So fake one! When I open the link, it turns out to be GOOGLE!

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      1. Collete Chan

        Reply to ANGELA: Haha! your sunch a loooser!!!!! U dont even now english? How sad!

        ANGELA!!!! Are you here to insult people or what! Speaking of insult, how bad can your english be? Oh my, how unmannered! Hmm… But why should I be soooo mannered to someone who is as worth as rubbish. And dont be sad, “Lance”, you could use google translate or you can ask the post author, Matt to expain??? No sooo sure. Btw, you can just use google translate for fast!

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          1. Collete Chan

            Its clearly your fault for pushing Mia! And thats why you got in detention! Got it? Now stop talking about school life!
            I’m sure Matt Rozak dont create this ‘comment’ for us to chit chat!

          2. Skylar

            Its a waste of time talking to u!
            And you, Coco! Though u are my bestie I still
            Cant stand u wasting ur preacious time on
            this ultra bishy brat!

          3. ANGELA

            Skylar!!! WAIT UNTIL I RUIN UR REPUTATION!! AND YOU TOO MS. ” PERFECT” BUT NEVER GOING TO BE!
            BUT if U HANG OUT WITH ME< NOT THAT UGLY NERD, OH RIGHT! THE NAMES NERDY SKY~~~
            DONT I BE SCARED OF MES PRISIDENT

          4. Artemis

            Geez, this sounds like a cliché middle school conflict. Or maybe you’re in high school, and just extremely immature. I’d be somewhat concerned if you were elementary students, considering some of the sexual jokes and 7th Heaven.

            Now, Angela, I am sorry, but I don’t think I will be able to take your side on this issue. You are trying to make fun of people for their name, which they were given at birth and had no choice to change, and for not having high English speaking capabilities, which is unfair to those who live in other countries, which was also given at birth, and also cannot be changed by choice. Thank you for your time reading this, and I hope you will re-evaluate your worldview.

    1. Collete Chan

      Adakah anda memerlukan saya untuk membantu anda menterjemahkan apa-apa? Adakah .. Tidak benar-benar baik tetapi masih tahu beberapa, harap anda tidak kecewa oleh saya …

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    2. Collete Chan

      Suprise!

      Epic Battle Fantasy 5

      Epic Battle Fantasy 5 adalah entri kelima dalam siri Epic Battle Fantasy. Permainan ini dilancarkan pada 30 November di Steam dengan harga $ 15 (yang boleh berbeza-beza bergantung pada negara anda), dengan versi web percuma untuk dimainkan dengan kandungan berbayar pilihan yang dikeluarkan beberapa bulan kemudian; pada 15 Februari, permainan ini menerima kemas kini v2 yang menaikkan harganya menjadi $ 20. Permainan ini bukan kesinambungan langsung dari Epic Battle Fantasy 4, melainkan reboot di mana semua pahlawan bertemu satu sama lain untuk kali pertama.

      Petak:
      ———————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————

      Kisahnya bermula dengan Matt bermain permainan video di rumahnya di pantai Hope Harbour. Dia baru saja mengalahkan bos terakhir ketika meteor menyerang bumi, mengalahkan kekuatan dan mengganggu permainan berakhir. Tertekan dengan kejadian ini, Matt melengkapkan dirinya dengan tongkat hoki dan meninggalkan rumahnya untuk pertama kalinya dalam beberapa minggu untuk menyiasat gangguan itu. Mengembara di sepanjang dermaga pelabuhan, dia melawan NoLegs, seekor kucing yang mencuri sampahnya; setelah dikalahkan, NoLegs menjadi sekutu.

      Berjumpa dengan Mage

      Pasangan ini terus memasuki Wild Tropics, menemui monolit hitam aneh yang tertanam di tanah dalam perjalanan ke Pasar Tani Harbour Harbour, di mana mereka mencuri Sekop untuk membantu mereka maju lebih jauh. Dalam perjalanan keluar dari pasar, mereka berhadapan dengan seorang gadis berambut merah yang melihat kecurian itu. Dia cuba menghukum mereka dengan rentetan sihir sihir, tetapi mengalah setelah Matt dan NoLegs mengalahkannya dalam pertempuran. Menyedari kekuatan mereka, dia memperkenalkan dirinya sebagai Natalie dan meminta mereka menjadi pengawalnya dalam usaha untuk belajar tentang monolit, yang menghasilkan gelombang tenaga yang mendorong monster menjadi marah. Natalie merancang untuk menyiasat benua selatan di mana serangan meteorit berlaku, tetapi mereka memerlukan rakit untuk menyeberangi Sungai Pelangi.

      Mengenang bahawa pembuat rakit tinggal di Mystic Woods, pasukan menuju ke selatan, mengalahkan siklop besar untuk memasuki Gua Es. Semasa mereka melalui gua, Natalie memberi komen bahawa Matt dan NoLegs kelihatan biasa, seolah-olah mereka pernah bekerjasama sebelumnya; namun, Matt menolaknya sebagai kebetulan.
      Lencongan Ketenteraan

      Di ujung Gua Es, trio memasuki No Man’s Land, di mana mereka disergap oleh seorang lelaki dengan seragam tentera hitam. Dengan pesta itu tersingkir dengan pertembungan dengan kereta kebal berteknologi tinggi, dia menculik Natalie dengan tujuan yang tidak diketahui. Tidak lama kemudian, Matt dan NoLegs diserang oleh pemanah berambut hijau muda, yang menyalah anggap mereka sebagai sekutu lelaki itu dengan warna hitam. Setelah dikalahkan, dia memperkenalkan dirinya sebagai Anna, penghuni Desa Greenwood yang berdekatan, dan menjelaskan bahawa kampung halamannya dikepung oleh sekumpulan fasis yang berpusat di No Man’s Land. Menyedari bahawa mereka mempunyai musuh bersama, Matt dan NoLegs bekerjasama dengan Anna untuk masuk ke Iron Fortress.

      Setelah bertempur melalui sebahagian besar kubu, kumpulan itu mendapati Natalie dipenjara dengan sejumlah wanita lain, serta sebuah peti berisi Palu yang membolehkan mereka maju lebih jauh. Mereka juga bertemu dengan lelaki berkulit hitam – bernama Lance – dan mengalahkannya dalam pertempuran, tetapi dia berjaya pulih dan melarikan diri buat masa ini. Di bahagian kubu yang lain, pesta itu mendapati seorang monolit sedang dikaji oleh bawahan Lance; di tempat lain, mereka memperoleh satu set Boot Magnetik untuk membuat beberapa teka-teki lebih terkawal. Lance sedang menunggu kumpulan di pintu masuk utama Benteng Besi, sekali lagi ditemani oleh kereta kebalnya; lebih bersedia pada kali ini, mereka berjaya mengalahkannya sama.

      Ditinggalkan atas belas kasihan parti, Lance akhirnya menjelaskan motivasinya; dia telah mengetahui bahawa monolit berasal dari luar angkasa dan sepertinya merakam maklumat untuk tujuan yang tidak diketahui. Dia mengumpulkan tenteranya untuk mempersiapkan serangan asing; wanita yang diculik itu bertujuan untuk menolong mereka menghuni Bumi selepas perang. Walaupun pesta itu (terutama Natalie dan Anna) masih curiga terhadap Lance, mereka membenarkannya menemani mereka dalam usaha mereka, dengan alasan bahawa pengetahuannya tentang monolit terbukti berguna.

      Belayar ke Selatan

      Dengan Lance sebagai sekutu / tahanan mereka, pesta tersebut menuju ke Greenwood Village, meminjam Kapak dari rumah Anna untuk memasuki Mystic Woods. Mereka melalui hutan, mendapati sebahagian besarnya dipenuhi dengan raksasa, sihir gelap, dan aliran toksik dari Benteng Besi. Untuk meneruskan, mereka memperoleh Leafy Boots dan Stepladder; mereka juga bertempur dengan Chibi Knight untuk pertama kalinya. Mereka akhirnya menemui rumah pembuat rakit itu, tetapi jalannya dihalang oleh pokok pelik yang dipenuhi kucing; setelah mengalahkannya, mereka akhirnya bertemu dengan pembuat rakit dan menerima kaedah menyeberangi Sungai Pelangi.

      Dengan rakit baru mereka, pesta ini bermula di hilir, tetapi sebahagian besar pantai benua selatan terlalu kasar untuk didarat. Mereka menyusuri sungai barat sehingga mereka menemui pintu misteri di pinggir ladang bersalji. Dengan mengumpulkan serangkaian Kepala Batu dari sepanjang sungai dan meletakkannya di alas di luar pintu gerbang, jalan dibuka untuk pesta memasuki Lembah Beku. Setelah melintasi lanskap berais (dan menemui Spiked Boots untuk membantu dengan teka-teki slip-and-slide) dan memerangi Chibi Knight yang berkuasa, quintet bertemu Poseidon, dewa laut kuno yang dianggap hanya legenda. Sayangnya, Poseidon marah kerana pencemaran air yang berleluasa, memaksa pihaknya mengalahkannya dalam pertempuran.

      Dengan Poseidon keluar, pesta itu akan sampai ke Redpine Town, sebuah penempatan yang dilanda raksasa tepat di sebelah lokasi benteng meteor. Mereka terus ke arah timur dan memasuki The Rapture, lanskap yang kelihatan asing dengan kekuatan monolit. Di pusat The Rapture terdapat meterai pelik; menggunakan empat unsur bola yang terdapat di sekitar benua selatan, para pahlawan dapat mengaktifkan portal ke The Beyond.
      The Grand Finale

      Ketika mereka maju melalui The Beyond, pihak tersebut menyedari adanya kekuatan luar yang mengawal tindakan mereka, akhirnya mengakui keberadaan pemain itu secara langsung. Selepas beberapa siri tembok keempat dan pertempuran sengit (termasuk bentuk terakhir Chibi Knight), mereka menemui monolit yang benar-benar kolosal yang mengawal yang lain dan memproses data mereka yang dikumpulkan. Parti itu mengalahkan Cosmic Gigalith, tetapi ini hanya mengungkapkan The Devourer, kekejian mengerikan yang merupakan dalang sebenar krisis.

      The Devourer menyatakan kekecewaannya bahawa pesta itu telah merosakkan rancangannya sekali lagi, mengungkapkan bahawa peristiwa dari keseluruhan siri ini adalah serangkaian simulasi yang dikembangkan sebagai usaha untuk menciptakan alam semesta yang teratur dengan sempurna. Sejak empat simulasi terakhirnya hancur oleh tindakan parti itu, ia bermula dengan menghapus kenangan antara satu sama lain dan eksploitasi masa lalu mereka. Walaupun itu tidak mencukupi, ia menyedari punca sebenar masalah: pemain yang membimbing pesta. Devourer sekarang berhasrat untuk mengalahkan pesta berulang kali sehingga pemain berhenti dari permainan, membuang satu-satunya elemen yang tidak dapat diramalkan dalam simulasi dan memastikan bahawa ia dapat memiliki alam semesta deterministik semata-mata yang diinginkannya.

      Di sebalik usaha The Devower, pesta itu mulai mendapat kemenangan dalam pertempuran mereka, akhirnya mendorongnya untuk menghapus seluruh dunia dalam usaha untuk menghapus pesta tersebut. Para pahlawan dapat menahan penghapusan mereka cukup lama untuk mengalahkan The Devourer, tetapi ia dapat melepaskan diri dari kehancurannya yang akan datang dengan memindahkan dirinya melalui skrin komputer pemain dan pembesar suara ke latar belakang gelombang mikro kosmik. Kata-kata terakhirnya adalah ancaman bagi pemain itu sendiri, memberi amaran bahawa ia akan mencari jalan untuk menyerang dunia nyata di mana pesta itu tidak dapat mengikutinya.

      Dengan Cosmic Gigalith hancur, monolit yang lebih rendah dinonaktifkan, dan The Devourer hilang dari kenyataan mereka, kenangan parti mengenai pengembaraan lama mereka kembali kepada mereka. Ringkas “di mana mereka sekarang?” segmen kemudian dimainkan, diikuti oleh komen pihak itu kerana peristiwa segmen itu sebenarnya belum berlaku. Setelah itu, pihak mengucapkan terima kasih kepada pemain kerana telah memainkan permainan mereka (dengan Lance menghukum Matt kerana cuba mengiklankan Patreon mereka) sebelum Game Baru Ditambah.
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      Para pemain

      Mat
      Natalie
      Lance
      Anna
      NoLegs (debut dimainkan)

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      Lihat, betapa mudahnya! Dan saya percaya bahawa Bahasa Inggeris anda tidak seburuk itu. Percayalah pada diri sendiri walau apa pun!

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    1. Collete Chan

      Aw…. Oh, and capture a foe, can help u get friendship points! By getting friendship point, u will get a happy ending.

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  12. TheBigDorito

    Hey would it be okie dokie if I “borrowed” this for a dungeons and dragons game with my friends (DM I am) is that okay?

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    1. Collete Chan

      Actually u all can find da ‘Stone Head” key on the place with rainbows………………………….. Hope dis can help ya!^_^ =_=”

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      1. Collete Chan

        And after u got three of the ‘Stone Head” key, u make a EQUAL triangle, u will get a treasure chest ^_^

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  13. Timburrr

    Just so all of you trash eaters know I have just made a WR (2 min ago) 1000000000% 5:21 EBF5. Which means I gona keep this WR, until time itself no longer exist because (from what heard) this takes about 30 hour and I beat it in 5:21 which is something non of you will be able to. If you are trying to make the WR on this game you are gona have to give up because non of you are gona beat the WR I have made (1000000000% 5:21 EBF5).

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    1. Collete Chan

      Hey, ANGELA I don’t know how u think about my name but next time please don’t juge a people by its name. OK?

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      1. ANGELA

        HEH! MY NAME IS LIKE AN ANGEL BUT YOUR NAME IS LIKE TOTAL STUPID ! OH, DID YOU GET THAT ASSHOLE NAME IN THE RUBBISH BIN BECAUSE YOUR TOO POOR !

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        1. Collete Chan

          Sorry if my name gaves u disgust but I didn’t get that name from a rubbish bin.I’m not used to be mean but I’m sure u get ur heart from a rubbish bin.I don’t hate u as much as Em &Sky but please stop bullying other students at school. I don’t want anybody to be hurt and the headmaster already said that u will be kicked out if u bully again.

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          1. ANGELA

            OH SCHOOL PRESIDENT ANGRY??? COLLETE! DON’T THINK THAT YOUR A SCHOOL PRESIDENT AND UR FRIEND EMERALD IS THE SCHOOL ASSTENT PRESISDENT THEN U CAN TELL ME WHAT TO DO! DON’T FORGET THAT MY IS THE SCHOOLS ADMIN MS.RAIN DON’T THINK THAT MY DAD ALSO WILL STAND AT UR SITE BECAUSE U GET THE BEST GRADES IN THE YEAR,

    1. Skylar

      BOI !!!! Me & our bestie [Emerald] the one we call Em in short in our school also play this game

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      1. Emerald

        Sky, I didn’t even write anything n here. How could CoCo now!!!!!
        And I also start playing this game last month its not long!!!! How could CoCO know!! If I didn’t tell u at the library u won’t know!!!!

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          1. Emerald

            Yup!!! That time I tell u is on Friday. Remember that CoCo has Harp lessons on Friday?

    1. Collete Chan

      Thats sad to listen. Maybe u can have a try on alowing the adole flash.Thats the only way to play da game.OH,forgot to tell you that there is [Kupo Games & Kongengrate] maybe u can try two of it.

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  14. gman65

    there a glitch where in the stats menu when you click matt alot this thing pops up and matt disappears but then reappears after a 1-3 seconds was that supposed to do that?

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    1. Ronja

      Which version of the game is this happening in? The main menu will tell you which version of the game you are running.
      If it’s the free website version or the battle demo it will have been fixed in the newer ones, and those versions are not being updated anymore.

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    1. Collete Chan

      PART 2: OHH their asking Nat Nat out!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Can’t wait to tell Nat Nat!! U know.. nolegs is planning to order 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,009 plates of rice ball..
      for not confusing u I will tel u the history why nolegs don’t order 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 plates..

      HISTORY OF NOLEGS:BOOK NUMBER 2,000,888,666,555,444,00
      PAGE 1,000,004: NOLEGS HELPED THE PARTY MEMBERS BECAUSE LAST TIME EBF4 THEY WENT OUT FOR DINNER… NOLEGS ORDERED 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 PLATES OF RICE BALLS AND DIE… Nat Nat HELP REVIVING ‘HER’.
      PAGE1,000,005:SO, ‘SHE’ FOLLOWED THE PARTIES… AND HAPPEN TO BE APPART OF THE PARTY MEMBER IN EBF5.

      OK BACK TO THE POINT…. NAT NAT GO TO THE RESTUARENT AND SAW LANCE AND MATT ARGUING TO EAT CHICKEN OR DUCKS! NAT NAT WAS FURIOUS AND HELP HERSELF AND NOLEGS ORDER SHE ORDER CANDY AND U KNOW NOLEGS ORDERED 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,009 PLATES OF RICE BALLS WHICH CONTAINS 10 RICE BALLS IN EACH A PLATE.

      SAD ENDING: WHEN MATT &LANCE FINALLY STOP ARGUING, THEY FOUND NAT NAT & NOLEGS DEAD ON THE FLOOR WITH EMILY AND MANY DISHES………..
      MORAL OF STORY NEVER GO OUT WITH TWO BOYS[BROTHER OR WHATEVER]

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  15. Anonymous

    Saves you carry over from here to steam will have the in game medals already unlocked, and you’ll never be able to unlock the steam achievements of those medals unless you reset medals….which is too bad if you’re already halfway through the game on the steam version.

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      1. Collete Chan

        Ur game is nice. But the crasy thing is that the first time, Lance can just kill every one! And I’m sure that every player was very unbelievable that the second time we, the players can just kill Lance! This process is really funny as I said. Ur games are really nice on playing! ???????????????????????????????? I luv ur creative ways. Ur thoughts of the game is very unthinkable and ur games is really popular. I found it all over the wikepedia and whatever places. I really like nolegs and I felt that godcat is like a ghoust or something…..

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      1. Anonymous

        Use Natalie limit break then use encore on her and give her pepper and use limit break again

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  16. The WARRIOR

    It might be just me but i caught a P*kemon reference during the dialogue after the battle with Natalie(p.s it’s nolegs line

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  17. genderson2003

    Recently just bought the $20 full game on Steam. The price made me hesitate but because I had such a great time playing this version, I decided to buy it. I loved playing this so I hope all of you will support the developer and buy the game too! <3

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  18. CoffeeUser

    Don’t know why this was never asked before. Some topaz keys aren’t easy to find.

    ❗ ❗ Spoilers ❗ ❗

    1. Iron Fortress, one of the screens with the magnetic tiles.
    2. Graveyard with a slime cat. Probably the hardest one to notice.
    3. Next to the screen with candle. There is an obscure path.
    4. At where the earth orb is. It’s probably impossible to miss this one.

    Tell anyone one who asks in the future to just ctrl + F

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  19. Knokke

    I know it has been a while since these replies were posted, but why did you need to rely on, mostly, items to heal in the Iron Fortress? First, you had Anna who knows “Refresh” (or whatever it is called at the beginning levels). Second, you could’ve quit to when before Natalie was captured by Lance and then unequipped all of her skills and even swapped her armor to what you thought may have not been useful based on Lance’s character in previous Epic Battle Fantasy Games.

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  20. GoB

    WHICH ONE OF YOU MORTALS THINKS THAT GOOGLE SUCKS AND IT SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN BECAUSE IT SUCKS BAD AND I AM YOUR GOD, AT LEAST THE ONLY REAL ONE, SO YOU ALL SHOULD AGREE WITH ME, AND IF DON’T, I WILL BRING DEATH UPON YOUR FAMILY AND TORTURE YOU.

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      1. GoB

        I FEEL LIKE YOU SHOULD CALM DOWN WITH THE ATTITUDE, FOOLISH MORTAL. YOU MUST HAVE THOUGHT YOU WERE REAL SMOOTH, HUH? GUESS WHAT I DECIDE WHO MEMES AND DOESNT MEME AROUND HERE BUDDY, SO GET USED TO IT.

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    1. Entman

      You start with Matt, then get Nolegs, then Natalie, then Anna, then Lance. You have to fight all of them, and you get an achievement if you just weaken them enough that they surrender instead of “dying”

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  21. CE

    Windslash: Kupo Games? They slash the wind out of my wind slash! ….Wait.

    Nice game. Really missing that character tho.

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  22. REEEEEEEEEEEE

    Tried the 10 M damage badge on the 10M hp slimes in greenwood at lvl 36.

    Setup:
    Viking monolith*2
    Anna:Siphon arrow->Fireworks->
    Natalie: Debuff armor (-80%)-> Stagger
    Anna: Freeze arrow (~300k damage)
    Matt: Temper (+90%)-> change equip->Cleave

    And I still failed because the first 3 slashes did 9.8M damage and killed the slime.

    FML.

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  23. Entman

    This is probably going to irritate you, but do you plan to/can you port the EBF5 browser version to something other than flash?

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    1. Matt Roszak Post author

      You’ll need to make sure that your browser doesn’t delete Flash cookies.
      Or you can try using the backup save feature.

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          1. Ladybug

            But … does that mean that everything will pay off on Steam, including the older games? So no more free EBF like here?

        1. random

          The games are worth the money, and once flash goes down there will be other ways to play flash games anyways.

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  24. Sam Brown

    Ok i love these games but towards the end in the rapture area i started noticing that the attacks don’t do as much damage as they say, for example i used Anna’s leaf blade attack on a mage dog with roughly 40,000 health and the two hits from Anna’s attack did 32,000 and 19,000 and the dog didn’t die… what the fuck is up with that?

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    1. CoffeeUser

      The damage number is cumulative in this game. So hit 1 did 19,000 and hit 2 did 13,000 which totals 32,000. 19,000/1,3000 is roughly 1.5 so hit 1 is a crit. It was done like that so you can see Cleaver deal a million damage instead of 5 200,000 hits.

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  25. lnl

    Strangely,I don’t feel sleepy at all with 40 hours playing without interruption.(Although I force myseft to sleep for health)

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    1. Collete Chan

      Please sleep more. Maybe now u won’t feel anything its nothing good for ur own health! And when ur old, u will have the ‘bad effect’! Please that my words as a note ?

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  26. awsome

    goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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  27. Ladybug

    Very good game (before i played at EBF3 and 4) and french translation is excellent. I love this manga graphics.
    Thanks for the filtered to play without blood, neckline and shocking content.
    But… I can’t finish this game! Where is this stupid hammer for break this red stones??! I can’t go into the last level, and there is no walkthrough like Kongregate, help! T-T

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      1. Ladybug

        Yes, i got it! Sorry to disturb you, i thought i was stuck on entry witout the hammer.
        Almost 30 hours of game, almost at the end, and we never get bored, like in other EFB games ! Thanks for this saga! 🙂

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    1. Knokke

      I know it has been a while since these replies were posted, but why did you need to rely on, mostly, items to heal in the Iron Fortress? First, you had Anna who knows “Refresh” (or whatever it is called at the beginning levels). Second, you could’ve quit to when before Natalie was captured by Lance and then unequipped all of her skills and even swapped her armor to what you thought may have not been useful based on Lance’s character in previous Epic Battle Fantasy Games.

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    1. Collete Chan

      Hey, ‘a ramdom person’ I found that a normal attack is way more stronger than the other level 1 attacks.

      Reply
  28. Confused Being

    Backup saves don’t seem to work in Chrome on Windows 10, all cookies are allowed, and flash is working properly, but the backup files don’t seem to lead to anything. In File Explorer, it says the backups are shortcuts but aren’t shortcuts to any kind of data, would this get fixed or not, since this is free version on the web?

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    1. Matt Roszak Post author

      I don’t know what to tell you – it works fine for most people. What is the file extension on the backup files? It should be .meow, and it shouldn’t matter what windows wants to do with them, the game should be able to load them.

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  29. Sad Player

    There were a few days when the website/server was down. Today, when I opened my game, all my save files were lost and I forgot to back up……… Now I have to work hard again to get Lance. Its okay, I’ll just jump straight into hardcore mode instead of finishing normal mode first. It’s a bit sad, because I already reached the red town…. 20 something levels lost…

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    1. Matt Roszak Post author

      I’m not sure if that’s related to the site update – the URL is the same so it shouldn’t effect Flash game saves.
      Better start using that backup feature!

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  30. Helene

    My map stopped updating after the first screen of the ice cave. Suggestions? I’ve reloaded the page, didn’t help.

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  31. anonymous

    I just had an interesting thought could you possibly do as an optional superboss that can’t be caught a dragon which has only its body and necks showing that has every single or if not this most of the attributes as this would a boss that would be an interesting experience as you could make to be like akron except on steroids with attribute changes and so would be a true challenge for even people that would want to strategise.

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  32. Donovan Patrick

    I am at the end of the game and after I captured snowflake, battle animations just stopped. They only continue when attacked, healed, and when attacking, but there is no idle animation. How do I fix this? 😥 ❓

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  33. awsome

    goooooooood GAAAAAAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :smirk: :smirk: :smirk: :smirk: :smirk: :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay: :love2: :love2: :love2: :love2:

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  34. Donovan Patrick

    I’m so used to the other ebf games that I found the first shop secret as well as the seagull demon on my first 5 minutes without any help and without mouse… :stars: :ooo: :yay: :smirk: :hurray: :tongue: :love: :love2:

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  35. Epic fan battle player

    After the quest where you defeat Poseidon there’s a dialogue that ana says “I wonder what treasure would appear if we put back the stone heads back?” Is there actually any treasure for putting them back or no?

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    1. Imperata

      Put the stones back to where you found it, there will be rainbows. At the end of each rainbow, you will find secret treasures

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  36. David

    Am I the only one who felt really, really bad about making them fight the glitch? (Even though I did turn down the difficulty.)

    P.S. Thank you sir for making an incredible game with amazing characters that I proceeded to give severe emotional trauma.

    Is there a therapy minigame that I haven’t found yet?

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  37. MarioBlock6

    This is a very good game!
    :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars:

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  38. idestroyer

    if you want to get zombie hydra and fail to catch dont worry it respawns so dont go back and struggle so chill :bacon: :coffee: :coffee: :phone2:

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  39. noor afnan

    i hate this game because the free version not giving the fuuulll story mode . cih. please matt roszak i want to play ebf 5 full version for freee. btw i love your game matt.i,ve played ebf 1,2,3,4,and 5 and many

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    1. Imperata

      The free version is already a complete game, but if you buy the game you will get additional contents

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  40. ankit

    This game is a re-make of super mario. Just that goombas are now called slimes and koopas of various colors are called different types of turtles.

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  41. ankit

    I wish I could minimize or close that ads on the right side. I keep accidentally clicking on them while playing the game and then have to reload etc. And no fullscreen is not the answer because for some reason this game lags heavily for me on full screen even with quite a decent i7 16gb laptop even with reducing the graphics to a minimal.

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  42. noor afnan

    matt roszak please give ebf 5 s free version a fuuuuullll game play because i dont have something to buy the full version pleeeeeeaaaaasssssssssssss

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  43. phos

    I don’t have the blue orb??? I got it after I beat Poseidon and I was planning to put it on the pedestal after I got all the other ones but I don’t have it anymore for some reason???

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  44. sonicboom357

    Dont READ THIS. YOU WILL BE KISSED ON THE BEST DAY OF YOUR LIFE. NOW THAT YOU’VE STARTED READING, Dont STOP. THIS IS SO FREAKY. 1 say your name 10 times 2. say your mum’s name 5 times and your crushes name 3 times 4. paste this onto 4 other games. If you do this, your crush will kiss you on the nearest Friday possible. But if you read this and do not paste this, you will get bad luck. SEND THIS ON 5 DIFFERENT GAMES IN 143 MINUTES.

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  45. Alex Rodríguez Guevara

    Greetings from Latinoamerica, we love you Roszak. Just writing to say that in Anna’s final scene in the true ending the word isn’t “empanciparse”, it’s “emanciparse”

    Thank you for your job from Peru

    Good luck and congratulations :hurray: :hurray: :smirk:

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  46. THE LORD OF MEMES

    i am trying to play the game but it is not turning on what do i do ❓ ❓ ❓ ❓ ❓ :phone: :coffee: :bacon: :phone2:

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  47. NicoleGachaYT

    So Matt, I found something, I went to the glitch area in Redpine Town to battle the glitch boss then i fled because i ran out of coffee, then all players’ equipments, items, steriods and food became glitches, I tried reloading my save but it wont work, I also tried making new progress but it was still the same. HELP PLZZ 😥 😥 😥 😥 ❓

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    1. Matt Roszak Post author

      Check your browser settings and make sure Flash cookies are allowed. Ad blockers may also interfere. Also you can try a different browser.

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  48. Justin

    Well i beat the game, I loved it a whole lot, not sure about the ending though but the game was overall amazing. Thanks for another good game, i’ll definitely be trying to get ahold of the paid for version so I can play it as well!

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  50. James Reynolds

    Can we not play EBF5 offline using the swf file?
    My wifi takes forever to run this page for some reason 🙁

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  51. Nonny

    Now I don’t need to be rude, but I just want this game to optimizes it’s performances.

    Despite loving this game a lot, My only drawback here is I have to lower EVERYTHING from the option menu, such as the animations, the background and specifically the graphic, and yet, the performances is still slow despite I’m doing anything to turn down my laptop performance.

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    1. Matt Roszak Post author

      Check your browser settings and make sure there’s nothing blocking cookies on my website. Make sure ad blockers and incognito mode are off.
      It’s probably one of those things. You can also try a different browser.

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  52. Water

    Ahahaha, it won’t save anything in the latest firefox… Not even a backup file. I’ve turned adblock off and am not incognito, so I have no idea what it could be.

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    1. Matt Roszak Post author

      Check your browser settings and make sure there’s nothing blocking cookies on my website.

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      1. Water

        Even after explicitly allowing the website to store cookies, still the same result T.T
        The odd thing is, the prompt to load a backup save does seem to work– the load function (of slots, too, I was lucky enough to catch one autosave before it disappeared (SOMEHOW)) seems to be fine.
        (also want to use this opportunity to say the game (as far I’ve been able to play it before dying by bear-stun-body-slam-combo) is awesome, haha ^^)

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        1. Water

          …tbf, a great bunch of flash games I’ve tried to play are malfunctioning pretty badly after a certain update… .-.

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          1. Water

            Update! https:// support. mozilla .org /en-US/kb/changes-affecting-adobe-flash-firefox-mac seems to have worked! :stars:

  53. James

    I completed all the quests and got all the medals. Thank you Matt for creating the greatest online RPG game in the history of the human race. I hope that you see this comment and maybe sometime in the future release even more EBF games.But until that time i love what you have done for all of us,inspired us and made us happy. Goodbye Matt. :smirk:

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  54. Affinna

    Tried playing this in Chrome. NO AUTOSAVE. Why? At least it can be saved at all, unlike in Firefox. ( :bleh:

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    1. Ronja

      Hi!
      You can try turning off incognito and any ad blockers you might have on and make sure your browser isn’t deleting cookies from the site.
      Hope this helps!

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  55. Affinna

    The game is not saving!
    Sometimes it does not even show the game slot being filled, even for a moment!
    Not even an autosave!
    Such a letdown.
    (Playing through the newest Firefox).

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  56. Meh

    Hey Kupo I have a question…

    😡 WHY DID YOU YOU REWRITE THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE AND ERASE ALL PREVIOUS EVENTS, WHY!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

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  57. Ronessi Nessi

    😐 Kinda forgot to tell that my secret boss’ health on epic is 15M+ HP
    Zero difficulty:2.5M HP
    Easy: 5M HP
    Normal: 7.5M HP
    Hard: 10M HP
    Note:
    The boss has unknown behaviors and is really hard to kill and cheap tactics wont work though…. 😐

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  58. Tiago

    Matt,I still do not believe that you have a Portuguese option in the language :stars: :stars: :stars:
    Thank very much :love2:

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  59. DoingTheJukes

    Fair warning for everyone trying to get the Chinese New Years equips, it costs 5 of the event items that you get from monster drops for each upgrade on both of the flairs that you can get from the event. So in all, too complete the event quest, and to upgrade both flairs fully, you will need to collect a total of 30 event items. BTW, the other flair not given by the quest, go to an Equipment shop.

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  60. PolaBunny

    I know you don’t update the beta anymore, but do I have to do something in order for the person to sell me weapons, because the weapons shop is empty, even when I first entered there. :wut:

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    1. CoffeeUser

      Weapon shops are shared. Every shop you encountered afterwards sells the same thing as the first shop.

      Reply
  61. IPufosenia

    Help whenever i enable flash the game turns white and then asks for flash again and turns white, every other game works
    😥

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      1. IPufosenia

        i deleted my history on edge to see if it works (i use chrome) and it worked but i dont want to lose my saves 😥

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  62. a random fan... BIG fan

    :stars: OOOOOHHHHH MY GOD! OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY GOD!!! OOOOOOO- *head blow up*

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  63. TestGamer

    Just fought the glitch and it was glitching out the UI ex: no hp bars and limit break for player char., no stats for enemy, enemies appearing on the HUD? but not in combat. I do not know if that was supposed to happen or not.

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    1. CoffeeUser

      It’s likely the glitch weather or the shroud status. Try using Mother Earth/The Creator and see if it persists.

      Remember when you have any interaction with glitchy enemies everything that happens is probably intentional.

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  64. Random Beta Tester 1234

    Started again on Epic difficulty, but have hit the ‘opening treasure chest in Rainbow River causes game to crash’ bug. Does anyone know if Armor Games is going to host a bug-free version of the game at any point without the exclusive access content?

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    1. CoffeeUser

      The free web version would probably just be the same thing as this but without bugs. (And it’ll probably not be on Armor Games since Matt did not mention it.) Just get the Steam version if you want something different.

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      1. Random Beta Tester 1234

        Just want to finish it on epic (any version) but don’t know if the chest which keeps causing the crash contains some quest-vital item, skill or essential piece of equipment which the game can’t be completed without.
        Very low (non-existent, in fact at the moment) gaming budget. 🙁

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        1. CoffeeUser

          That chest just had some material afaik. So you can still very much complete everything here. Just not including getting every chest.

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          1. Random Beta Tester 1234

            Levelled characters up to level 36, but have hit a difficulty wall on epic. Can’t beat snowflake because the poison doesn’t damage him fast enough and when snowflake gets down to 4 million or so hit points, the attacks snowflake makes are starting to bypass the ‘meat shield’ character with revive and ‘target me’ and to take out the whole party. Can’t beat the 5th glitch monster because it repeatedly wipes the whole party out and the only ‘revive all’ options I have are Genesis (which deals holy damage and thus heals the glitch monster) and ‘9 lives’ which has a 10 turn cooldown.
            Can’t beat the trio monoliths with 200K hit points each (or is 2 million?) in the ‘final’ astral zone because again they’re wiping the party out with no problem, and if I remember right from ‘normal’ difficulty everything else there is MUCH tougher.
            Need to endlessly grind steroid items from the art gallery I guess, if I want to get any further…
            Anyway, it was fun up to the current difficulty wall (apart from that one chest which crashes the game) and I hope your steam version is selling well.
            :shades:

          2. CoffeeUser

            No need for that. Snowflake is harmless once both weaken and tired hit 50%. No meat shield needed. Glitch boss is really susceptible to debuffs so you could kill/capture it turn one with the help of Viking Monolith. (Or just do it on zero. No medal for beating that thing on epic.) Triple CM is quite hard if fought normally but not a problem with syphon. Even when fought normally it’s not that hard with the correct elemental resists.

            There were never difficulty “walls” in the free version. If you found a wall then perhaps you have been crawling this whole time. Try standing up by actually learning about the game. Utilizing statuses/take precaution for enemy attacks/maximize damage output. If you don’t want to do that then stay on playing normal I guess. Epic mode isn’t for everyone obviously.

            Reminder difficult parts can be fun for some people. And top players are still finding the game too easy. (I’m definitely not one myself.)

  65. UndeadSpider

    Accidentally clicked a link on the side 🙁 Open in new tab plz, my internet is veeeeeryy slow :'( Took me 15 minutes to reload, no lie

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    1. Zero Humans

      well i dont know if thet will be blue :mad :s :scare :sick:
      so not need to copy it
      again sorry for the bad english

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      1. Zero Humans

        looks like i not read it first
        i just not want to make an emoticons of nolegs
        and again sorry for the bad english

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  66. agentr9154

    I love how the game is! it turned out awesomely so far! Plus,I like how there are family friendly options so I can play it at school if I leave the tab open.

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    1. DoingTheJukes

      I think it is from interacting with a Seagull somehow… Not sure on the specifics I just got it out of the blue while doing that.

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  67. Joe

    Thank you so much for all your effort and this game Matt! You rock dude. Try to port this to the Switch and I’ll support it. A lot of indie games, free & mobile games are coming out there and are being profitable.

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  68. Joseph Howard

    You know, I never could find the shoes that let you walk on clouds. I guess I will try again on the extended Steam version soon.

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  69. Allen

    For the love of godcat… where that dang last goat milk bottle be? I be hoping too that pirate’s empties are somehow connected…

    Can’t wait for Friday…

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    1. CoffeeUser

      They’re either inside fridges or farms. All inside towns. Quite easy to find compared to things like golden ticket.

      And the one you are looking for is probably not the last one. There are 5.

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    1. CoffeeUser

      It’s (technically) in Forgotten Ruins. The equip name paired with the location it’s in strongly reminds me of a certain YouTube celebrity and his “theories.”

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  70. Will

    Hey peoples. Where are the red and blue jewels? I’ve only found the green one and I can’t find the rest. ;-; 😥

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    1. CoffeeUser

      Before you ask for where it is, may I ask: Why would you want it? There’s only one place where it’s truly needed. And you probably don’t remember where that is anyway.

      It’s at the screen just before the Frozen Valley boss. Very hard to miss.

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        1. CoffeeUser

          Oh, so you know exactly what you needed it for. I appreciate that very much. :yay: So many people asking questions here without trying to figure out things themselves. Especially those who asked for the key items needed for story progress.

          So to be more specific, it’s in a chest guarded by a bubbler sprite. That fight is really tough. (4 deadly waves. Wave 4 is definitely the toughest of them all.) You should be fine though if not on epic or have a level 31 party on epic.

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          1. CoffeeUser

            Oh, so you know exactly what you needed it for. I appreciate that very much. :yay: So many people asking questions here without trying to figure out things themselves. Especially those who asked for the key items needed for story progress.

            So to be more specific, it’s in a chest guarded by a bubbler sprite. That fight is really tough. (4 deadly waves. Wave 4 is definitely the toughest of them all.) You should be fine though if not on epic or have a level 31 party on epic.

  71. Will

    Hey can someone tell me all of the locations for the holy water? i only have 2 out of 3 bottles for the quest. :wut: :wut:

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  72. EBF Fan

    Do battles that don’t give exp (Forgotten Temple, Grand Gallery) still raise support between characters? I talked to the Bard after going through both with Lance in my front line the entire time, but it didn’t seem that anything changed. Or maybe I just didn’t raise it enough. I don’t know. Either way, I love this game and am a huge fan of your work, Matt!

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    1. Frost

      Best way to raise support is to go to the dummy slimes in greenwood, give your characters autobattle with electric bat summon, and then just wait. Play another game, read a book, watch TV, whatever, and come back every couple minutes to refresh the autobattle. Run away from the fight when you think enough rounds have passed

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      1. CoffeeUser

        An even better way, just find a panda bear fight and mash the “skip turn” button. Can even be automated.

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          1. CoffeeUser

            So your method can be automated, and it’s even easier than the method I mentioned. I’d like to inquire how.

            Using the method I mentioned, just make all 3 skip turns. Then hover over the skip turn icon. Start your auto clicker. Done. I’d be amazed if it can possibly get easier than that.

  73. Seth Gustafson

    The graphics quality in fullscreen needs work, its too pixely currently and needs to be as crisp as when its not in fullscreen mode.

    Love the game tho, well done Matt and thanks for making it. :yay:

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  74. Alexandrite

    After replaying EBF4 along with this I’m of the opinion that EBF5 is a huge improvement in almost every way, and 4 was already incredible so that’s quite a feat.

    The ‘almost’ comes down to three things, I think;

    Game-spanning sidequests like the dragonballs, the golden tickets, and the hidden glitch zones have unsatisfying results for how much time and effort they take to complete. The former two quests have almost no reward, and the glitch boss doesn’t do much to stand out from the one in the previous game making it feel like just another encounter.

    The main battle theme that you hear in most fights gets pretty grating after awhile, I feel. This is probably totally subjective but it’s the only battle theme in the series, including this game, that I’ve found myself turning off out of annoyance.

    The biggest one, and the one that I had to play EBF4 again to really notice – is that the pacing of the battles in this game feels horrendously slow. I’m not sure if that’s mainly caused by players and foes having longer animations in general, the capture system making you think twice about which enemies you kill, or foes and bosses being a lot beefier than in previous game, making battles take longer to win. But when I started playing 4 again the battle speed hit me like Lance’s fancy car.

    I’d like to reiterate that I think this game is amazing and I enjoyed every hour I put into it, and will likely spend many more when the premium content becomes available, but its few major flaws became pretty noticeable after a playthrough or two. :ooo:

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    1. CoffeeUser

      1. I agree with the quest. But the glitch boss seems alright for me. The point is not getting some super powerful item that makes the game easy. It’s the experience that the fight gives you. Both irl and in game. It has the potential to give you some trauma. It’s also the best grind spot in the game as of now. (Used to be triple CM but they were buffed.) I think that’s enough reward as it is.

      2. I completely disagree. I think this game did a better job at placing the themes. In 4 you hear almost every battle theme at the first two areas. And then no more. But in this game there’s almost a new song introduced per area. It should be more difficult to get tired of the themes in this game. In any sense you can’t really call this a “flaw.” If it’s one, how would you suggest ways to “fix” this?

      3. Hmm. Personally I dislike fancy setups (People were able to one hit everything in 5 by doing this.) and like to take it slow. And I even felt some of the battles in 4 were tedious to do. Like those kitten forts. They won’t ever go down. Even with burn it takes ages. And big versions of some enemies were also tedious to defeat. A big bush could take like 10 fire hits and kill my party multiple times over in the process. Do I even need to begin talking about Monoliths and Dragons?

      In this game I can do a battle against two dragons and do the same thing again without even feeling tiring in the process. Because all the players got buffed a lot in power. Monsters as tanky as chompers gets destroyed by a few earth moves. And a surge hit on Sky Dragon with some buffs and debuffs is almost 1/2 health gone. (Might be less depending on level.) This game is much more favorable to those who plays the game right. And I appreciate that a lot.

      Also, I wouldn’t exactly call having to think more about what you do a “flaw.” Rather “a massive improvement.” If you don’t like doing too much things you can always play on a lower difficulty.

      Of course, these are just my personal view. So feel free to ignore. (Also sorry for the super long comment.)

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      1. Alexandrite

        Glitch boss: I just think more could’ve been done to make the fight stand out from its ebf4 counterpart, as it’s pretty much the same as that fight despite having some buildup this time. The boss doesn’t need a better reward, it needs to be a better reward.

        Music tracks: The music is generally very good yes, but I was talking about the trance battle theme that plays over about half the map. Might just be my opinion but I usually end up muting the music when I’m in one of those areas.

        Game speed: Since you made a pretty condescending remark about playing on a lower difficulty I guess you thought I was saying the game was too hard, which isn’t what I was going for there. Playing 5 and then 4 (both on the same difficulty) had me notice that the average turn in 5 is just way slower, whether due to animation times or whatever. When I started playing 4 I thought the game was running at double speed at first because the turns were just that much faster.

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        1. CoffeeUser

          Short answer to the glitch part: Not really?

          Long answer: The glitch fight in this game was something that actually bothered me. Due to the lesser glitches having negative defense and the weather shrouding, it’s really hard to get rid of them. And not to mention the big glitch had some tricks to use this time. (Like ganging up with the lesser glitch, attacking backup or mass confuse your team.) It was definitely not a fight that can be figured out the first time. And actually required some strategy to win.

          On the other hand the EBF4 glitch is just spam kitten fort, arrow rain and star shower. If you consider that the same thing as the EBF5 one then idk. Imo it’s more of a reward than the EBF4 glitch fight in terms of the fight itself. Maybe it’s because you played 4 first so it doesn’t surprise you.

          ❗ Maybe to make the glitch fight even more gimmicky Matt could make it so that the big glitch had negative on either of the defense stat every (few) turn(s). (Or even both.) But that would make this fight nearly impossible to those who don’t know what they’re doing. Maybe make it a higher difficulty trait.

          There’s another reason to play on a lower difficulty though. To save time. Playing on zero doesn’t always make you a noob. Sometimes it makes you a speedrunner. I never considered difficulty part of what you were concerned about.

          4 had shorter animations. But longer battles. On the other hand in 5 the animations were indeed longer. (Also with the weather proc and such.) But the battles are overall shorter. That’s all I was trying to say. (But with animations in consideration.)

          ❗ So if Matt included a way to skip animations it would be all good. Is that what you were asking for? I think it would be really hard to implement such function though. And it’s probably too late since the game is going to be released soon.

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  75. Ganymade

    Today, i suddenly can’t play the beta version 0.16. I can’t manage to run the flash even there already the pic which inform to enable the flash in the screen where we play the public beta. Is this another bug :wut:

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  76. UndeadSpider

    OK too many comments here to be of any use to devs, but I’ll say it anyway:

    I found the zero-exp zones demotivating – I switched to the ZERO difficulty setting to just sped run through them. No exp makes the battled feel kinda worthless.

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  77. John S

    Bug
    ❗ ❗ ❗ Spoiler ❗ ❗ ❗

    on rainbow river (7 down and 4 to the right) there is a chest (guarded by two crabs two slimes and a dog) that causes flash player to crash upon attempting to open. not sure if this is flash only issue or a me only issue :scared: just thought id throw it out here just in case. otherwise ive had no other issues and im absolutely loving the game!!!! it really is everything that i wanted :love: :love2: thanks so much

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  78. Lord Pikmin

    I’ve encountered a problem when opening a chest involving the area where the Raft scene is…..It’s the first chest of the two chests together

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  79. Will

    This is perfect. The game is pure RPG perfection, a wonderful treat. Kupo, you have so much potential, and it gives me joy to see it realized. I especially love how you make it so that status ailments and buffs, the 2 most overlooked parts of any RPG, are put to the forefront in a tactical perspective, and I give thanks to Phyrra (Did I get that right? I always have trouble remembering it off the top of my head). The music is professionally done, a la Shoji Meguro (Meaning that it reflects the situation it plays in perfectly). I have been a long time fan. I bought EBF 4 on Steam, I loved bullet heaven 1, and 2. I hope you go far man, because these games are AAA quality, and it makes me glad that indie creators like you exist.

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  80. Anderdavid

    😡 the screen of the flash he does not let me play when I allow the flash anyway he keeps telling me to allow it like but if he does not let me play, he will help me please 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 :bleh: 😥 :coffee:

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    1. CoffeeUser

      This set of key item is actually tricky.

      ❗ Spoilers ❗

      1. Greenwood item shop.
      2. Wild Tropics, one of the underground areas. If you’ve played 4 you know the drill. Or not the drill since it’s not useful in this game. The flybot maybe.
      3. Redpine. Inside the so called “mausoleum.” (Seriously I did not know about this word until people here refer to that as that. I named it after what I saw inside, the “torture chamber.”)
      4. Forgotten Ruins, don’t have to care about this one since only 3 are required.

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  81. reyzonpokemon

    just to let you know. the one of the chests in rainbow river (the one below the map entrance to the ice cave were you fought the cyclops, the map tile below it) after you fight the enemy (not the squid, the other one) and collect the chest directly on top of it. the game crashes :sick: :sick: . hope you read this.

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  82. UndeadSpider

    For players unfamiliar with the franchise, it’d be nice to keep secret that Lance will join you. However, I picked up a piece of toast in the kitchen in his castle that gave it away.

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    1. I'm stupid sometimes

      I’m looking for it too. Do you happen to know where the flute is? I still haven’t found it yet…

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  83. Super12345

    Game’s great but am I the only one who has every weapon shop share the same inventory? IDK if it’s common among everyone but I just got to Redpine & it’s sold out just like the others.

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  84. Yuika

    Hi I’m at rainbow river and there’s a chest I can’t get, when I press it, the game freezes and it says the plugin stopped working or something… :scared: I’ve tried to restart it a bunch of times but it still doesn’t work 😥 The location is right under Ice Cave Entrance and the chest was blocked by a crab

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  85. I'm stupid sometimes

    Where can I find the flute? I’m already on Glacier valley but I still can’t find it. Even the green jewel. Can someone help me? 😥

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    1. ShadowAura

      It’s fixed itself. still, some specific reason as to why, if any would be helpful if anyone knows how it works.

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  86. Alexandru Alin Gliga

    Matt when i want to opena chest BETA was blocked by chest and i need to restart.
    Please solve this strangilly bug okay?

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  87. Iron Rope

    I’m not sure if this has been mentioned before or not, but I think I ran into two chests containing the Sol Spear (the fire elemental staff). If this was supposed to be the case for this (and other equipements), then this whole post is effectively meaningless, and I’d appreciate if anyone could let me know of that.

    If my memory serves me well, both chests are found inside Lance’s Fortress:
    The first chest being in the same room as the first prisioner you get to free (which means this chest is effectively acquaired without any optional exploration);
    The second one is found just one room to the North, but it’s in a chest that requires the magnetic boots to reach.

    I had upgraded the staff from level 1 to 3 before getting the second chest. When I did get the second chest, it showed the level 3 staff inside it, so this means there’s no actual changes in terms of gameplay caused by this.
    Perphas we could replace the staff from one of those chests with some crafting material?

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    1. CoffeeUser

      The first location was off. It’s actually at the screen where you encounter Anna.

      Their location was swapped with Camo Skirt in the last update. (From 0.15 to 0.16.) Due to their prior locations being useless. You get the staff right after Natalie was kidnapped. So you can’t use it until like 2 hours later. And when you get the Magnetic Boots you’ve essentially conquered the fortress. So bomb resistance is not that useful anymore.

      So that means you’re not getting Camo Skirt on this save. RIP. (Unless you do new game + but that’s only for the paid version.) This isn’t that far into the game so I’d recommend you to start again or load a save at a point before you encounter Anna if you fortunately have it.

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    2. Matt Roszak Post author

      I switched the location of the staff with another item!
      Sorry, but you can’t get the Camo Skirt now.

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      1. CoffeeUser

        Wow, THE Matt commented beside me. :ooo:

        I’ve noticed that my name was brought up in Discord due to an obvious reason. Is that supposed to be a good or bad thing?

        Either way, I’m going to reduce my frequency of commenting here. Or if you want I can stop commenting for good. Hope to hear back from you. :smirk:

        (Also, my name is “CoffeeUser”, not “CoffeeAddict.” It was supposed to show how much of an incompetent player I am, using coffee so often. Not that I spent all my life savings on coffees. It already took all of them to fully upgrade 80% of all equipment.)

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  88. death samurai

    matt, you should check the stagger status it says that next (only one) HIT will be an a cricital attack but actually the ALL THE HIT in the skill was a cricital, :bleh: :bleh: and you should make no more aditional damage when the player end the battle because when the player defeat a fish with just 1 player left with a cricital hp the game is over but the battle is win 😡 😡 really you should reprair that sorry for the bad english

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    1. CoffeeUser

      Multi hit attacks count as one hit for damage amplifying statuses now. Like Freeze and weaken/curse. Great change if you ask me. Like why would you want attacks to deal less damage? Do you enjoy having to give 5 layers of statuses for Cleaver to be viable?

      That’s one change I didn’t like much. But there are ways to deal with it. Like you can capture or stun/syphon the fish so that they can’t throw bombs at you. It actually makes you think before recklessly killing them. So good change, I suppose.

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  89. darkenforcer

    after the beta update 0.15 ,every time i hit play the game hangs and starts playing all the sound effects used in the game and i cannot play it

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  90. Anderdavid

    i am the best :shades: lol i won the boss 4 ❗ no lose me :phone2: 👿 :coffee: :bacon: :phone: :phone2:

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  91. Anderdavid

    :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :stars: :love2: :stars: :love: :love2: :love: :stars: :ooo: :tongue:

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  92. Danny

    Keyboard shortcuts would be handy-dandy! M for map, etc.
    Also, SO MANY COMMENTS XD Probably need a comment box at the TOP of the comments here ^_^ :yay: :yay:

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  93. Norby88

    Is it possible to find all coral keys without the premium content? I have backtracked through the entire map and still can’t find the last one…

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    1. CoffeeUser

      Yes.

      1. Hope Harbor food shop
      2. Greenwood equipment shop
      3. Mystic Woods, ???
      4. Rainbow River, very close to the edge of the map
      5. Frozen Valley boss screen
      6. The Rapture, blocked by red crystals and clouds

      Compared to other keys this set of key is pretty tame tbh.

      Also, you can’t say you backtracked the entire map until you find every pieces of equipment. Not counting seasonal there are 15 weapons for everyone but Lance who has 16. 14 of every defensive piece except female armor which has 15. 33 flairs. Repeat: NOT counting seasonal since the last time I mentioned this someone suspected that I missed something.

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  94. Az0rius G4m3r

    Is it just me, or is the Redpine theme partially inspired by the theme from the kids’ game “Shrink-It”? :ooo:

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    1. Az0rius G4m3r

      Come to think of it, is Shrink-It’s theme original to that game, or is that taken from something even older?

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    2. CoffeeUser

      After some research, it turns out that the theme of that game was made by Phyrnna herself. Link: https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/248762 Wow, the theme which would be used for a war-torn town was also used by a game where you push a happy octagon around, over 9 years ago.

      I originally thought it was from Under My Skin but apparently it goes way back.

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  95. Hanan Ricketts

    God someone please tell me where I can find the quest-giver who needs bottled milk! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! …oh yeah, and thank you! 🙂 :love2: :love2: :love2:

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  96. Anyar

    Hey Matt, excellent job, the nostalgia is hitting hard and I’m loving the style and the new features (Pokeboxes, cooldown instead of MP), and I’ve only barely beat the first boss. Really excited to see the new sequel.

    However, one nitpick I have is that this tip:

    “Remember to upgrade your weapons and armor, especially before a major battle.”

    seems to appear right before the first boss, and continues to follow you everywhere with no way to permanently close it until you give in and upgrade something in the Forge. Some players (like me) may want to just walk around and check stuff out before upgrading, so making it a one-time message that permanently closes when you open the Forge (instead of closing until you start moving again) would help.

    Additional minor message issues would be the tip about what the very helpful box next to foe names represents (that you already captured that foe) appearing a bit late in the game so I was confused until then, maybe one could hover over the icon and get a small pop-up saying “Captured” or something.

    And if there isn’t one already, a tip that appears after you exceed the maximum in-battle summons count (when you have more summons than can be available at once per battle) could let you know why you can’t find them all in-battle.

    Thanks, and I wonder how the plot will go this time. Doesn’t seem to be a direct sequel but there’s hints of deja vu… 😉

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  97. fireskyleaf

    I can’t seem to find the NPC quest between Akira and Pablo (top row, second to last). I’m assuming it’s somewhere in the Iron Fortress/Greenwood area, but so far I haven’t been able to find them. Help would be greatly appreciated :yay:

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      1. fireskyleaf

        Thanks so much!!! :stars: By any chance, do you happen to know where the NPC in the bottom row, third from the left, is ❓

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        1. CoffeeUser

          It’s part of a chain quest. Complete the quest next to that spot first. Or if you already have go back to where you got that quest and you’ll find it.

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  98. AvocadoBowl

    Are the enemies in Forgotten Ruins all supposed to give you 0 Exp because that’s kind of whats happening.

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  99. Just Some Guy

    I got a question, where can silly little me find the list of balancing fixes? I cannot test what I dont know changed. Am I this blind?

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    1. CoffeeUser

      You can find them in one of the pinned messages in EBF Discord. But only the latest changes are included.

      Aside from the Poseidon buff, Monolith buffs(Better debuff resistances and Cosmic Monoliths become smarter at using elements), and Viking Monolith costing more to summon, nothing major.

      Oh, and 7th Heaven has outfit variations now.

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  100. Crappy meme maker

    TFW you accidentally find Heaven’s Gate when solving puzzles
    [insert video of Flash the sloth slowly smiling]

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  101. Phantom31132

    Please help there is a bug where I have alot of medals around 30. But when I tried to get the “Clicking 100 slimes on starting screen” , I got it and come back to my save then all my other medals are gone. I’ve reload the page but it wont help. Help

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  102. ANDREI HASVDH

    i FOUND A GLITCH WHILE PLAYINGThe game :

    I had a old ver. save and did something on it and on a pretty new save it teleported ma to the item and food shop when i switched the screens when i did not even beat Jotun.
    Fix this please. = )
    glad to help :yay:

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  103. myom

    I played through this version on Easy, just to get a casual experience of what EBF5 had to offer- Frankly, the whole premise/theme with the player being involved in the game universe left me feeling reminiscent of my experience with the past EBF games. Is this kind of a send-off for the series? I don’t really mind it if so, but it will take me some time to absorb. 🙁

    :coffee: :coffee:

    Just an out-of-topic thought I wanted to share: As I’ve mentioned about the reminiscent factor, at some point I’m reminded of Adventure Story. Obviously, it’s a fairly old project by now, but it did make me think about another game following it. I understand if it isn’t possible, though. Like I said, it was just a thought. :yay: Anyway, to anyone who may be reading this, have a nice day!

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  104. KNEF

    I won with Poseidon, came back 1 screen to the left, went to the Secret LVL 4, and when won all fights, tried to came back… but game put me in RedPine Town? :wut: I found bug, or it should be like this? :wut:

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      1. Random Beta Tester 1234

        I don’t remember if the characters comment on it, but if not and it’s possible (probably not if the translations are done, mind you) it might be worth the characters saying something like ‘woah! that wasn’t where we entered that area’ the first time it happens to indicate it’s an ‘intentionally built in glitch’.

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        1. CoffeeUser

          Lance said it’s a wormhole in one of his lines.

          I always interpreted it as such without being aware of that quote, however. That actually seemed quite normal compared to some other things those zones did.

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  105. Woo

    ive been popping slimes and making covers of songs that are downloaded, why is it so addicting to pop slimes :stars:

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  106. Alexandrite

    I think Poseidon might need his defenses buffed, even on epic he dies way too quickly to a party at the same level.

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    1. CoffeeUser

      It’s been suggested on Discord and Matt agreed with it. Probably will be applied on the next patch.

      Changes:
      1. HP increases by 45%
      2. All debuff resistances increase by 10
      3. Immune to Bio (Who uses bio anyway)
      4. Ores summoned increase by 3 levels

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      1. TheJazMaster

        I use bio
        It was almost completely useless in EBF4 and I’m glad it’s finally getting some buffs

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        1. CoffeeUser

          That statement was meant to be a joke. Consider the strategy level of an average player. I don’t expect those who don’t use Lance to be patient enough to find if Bio is useful.

          But to be fair, most Bio skills are weak. Others are outclassed. (Only Anna’s Razor Leaf isn’t.) Why use them when you can use another element and do a better job?

          At first glance that seems like a fair argument. But it ignored one thing. The damage over time effect bio statuses have. By utilizing them you can go full defensive and still kill things. Very useful against some foes with a large health pool and uses dangerous attacks at the same time. Like Mammoths and Dragons (Aside from earth).

          So yeah, Bio is useful. But it’s not that obvious so most people will ignore it. As some people fails even the wooden plank quest, I don’t know what even is “obvious” anymore.

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  107. Alexandrite

    Found a bug with the light Godcat limit break.

    https://i.imgtc.com/l8Hfj1g.png

    After using it to kill the two mirror enemies in the battle, this error message appeared and the Godcat attack animation repeated endlessly.

    It was in the battle blocking the lilypad-walking boots in the woods, if that’s important.

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    1. CoffeeUser

      Don’t know why this was never asked before. Some topaz keys aren’t easy to find.

      ❗ ❗ Spoilers ❗ ❗

      1. Iron Fortress, one of the screens with the magnetic tiles.
      2. Graveyard with a slime cat. Probably the hardest one to notice.
      3. Next to the screen with candle. There is an obscure path.
      4. At where the earth orb is. It’s probably impossible to miss this one.

      Tell anyone one who asks in the future to just ctrl + F

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        1. CoffeeUser

          One would think that a super important key item’s location would be really memorable. It’s at the screen with most torches apparently.

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  108. Foxtrot

    Dammit. I really should stop playing the public beta, and wait for the steam version… but I cant xD

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  109. MerryManson

    Found a Bug. :smirk:

    Map-Tile is the 7th from the left, 2nd from above, Mystic Woods.

    There, the second line from the top Left corner, 6th square from above.

    The mouse indicates you can walk there and on the square above, but you can’t.
    It looks like you want the people to come from the left map through that little side walk but according to the mouse-icon you can just walz up there , not really but well.

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    1. DoingTheJukes

      (!SPOILERS!)
      One gem is behind the fridge in the first equipment shop in Hope Harbor. You can enter the back area once the thief is gone. Just push the fridge to the side and you can enter the area it is in. The second one is in the house where the old dude lives in Greenwood with vegetables growing in front of the house. Push the bookcase to the side and you can enter the area, but you have to have the step ladder to get to the gem. The last gem is in the cemetery building in Redpine, but you need the candle to get to it I think. You just push back the first stone slab to the right twice and then go the left and up. Once you have all the gems you can place them on pedestals in the temple in the Forgotten Ruins.

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    2. CoffeeUser

      ❗ ❗ ❗ Big Spoilers ❗ ❗ ❗

      List of the locations of every golden ticket

      1. After completing the wooden plank quest, it’s across the bridge.
      2. Complete Jerry’s quest. Inside his house. (You have to rescue him first.)
      3. Mystic Woods, at the screen where there is a tent. On the trees.
      4. Iron Fortress, go back there when you get the ladder.
      5. Frozen Valley boss screen.
      6. Redpine Town, screen with a house you can’t enter.
      7. The Rapture, screen with a really unholy look.
      8. Forgotten Ruins, screen where you get the Winged Boots and basically 50% of the most obscure secrets.
      9. The Rapture, accessible only if you have the Winged Boots.
      10. Rainbow River, at the edge of the screen, needs big hammer.
      11. Lava Lake Campsite.
      12. Grand Gallery, 45 medals passage.

      Here, saved you from the trouble of searching all over the world. Either repost this or redirect the future askers here by telling them to ctrl + F.

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  110. Frost

    -ENDGAME SPOILERS HERE-

    -BEWARE-

    If this is the fifth time the simulation has been reset, why did the cast retain memories in between the first four games, only to lose them in this one? What made this reset different?

    -SPOILERS UP THERE ^^^-

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  111. Masecampo

    Thank you Matt, for making this great game. You put ALOT into this game and I admire you greatly for it. Not that I know of any awards, but if there was one called “Best Indie Developer” – for this year you definitely deserve it.

    ~ <3 from random internet guy :love:

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  112. Knokke

    I will not spoil anything, but for those of you who have yet to unlock the final room in the Art Gallery by achieving every medal, if you fight anything in there I would suggest you prepare yourself to lose. I am a level 42 and this is my recommendation. Even on zero difficulty, at face value, the battles look futile. :sick:

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    1. CoffeeUser

      Oh yeah. Those battles are fun. I’ve beaten one on epic and yet to beat the other but got close.

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    2. Frost

      Level 36 and they don’t seem that bad – I did the left on zero difficulty (at your advice) no sweat. Even on epic you should be able to easily juggle all of the enemies besides one with freeze or stun, preventing them from moving at all. You can also use similar strategies to the glitch superboss to prevent their attacks from killing you outright. Their health isn’t super high either, a few limit break combos should do the trick.

      The one on the right seems a bit harder on epic, but if you can set up a black hole mega-combo (admittedly something that isn’t super simple with it constantly attacking you – probably need viking monolith) you could probably demolish it in one strike – dark weakness is very exploitable. Weaken + stagger + bad luck (if possible) + ~50% magic defense debuff + invisible on it, ~100% magic attack buff + good luck + brave on Natalie with max magic dark equips, then nuke it with black hole. I’ll have a go at it myself sometime later. I kind of doubt they’ll rival snowflake or the final boss on epic though

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      1. CoffeeUser

        Nope, you shouldn’t assume the situation on higher difficulties. Since some enemies get extra perks on higher difficulties. That aside enemies’ health differs between difficulties. At zero it’s 0.5x of normal, at epic it’s 1.4x. Almost 3x more.

        The left fight is only not that hard because it’s not all of them at once. Those damn creatures probably made up 1/4 of my death count in the past. However their status weaknesses suggests how to easily beat them. It turns out they are only dangerous in numbers. I don’t think a single limit break is necessary. Maybe it can speed up the fight a little. But you generally need to stall the fight instead of directly dealing damage anyway.

        I did a mini setup for that right fight. And I was only able to blow about 2/5 the health away with one limit break. Better setups requires Viking Monolith. I might do it some time for fun. But I don’t use summons for those fights unless I can gain back what I spent. Since then I’ll have to grind those back.

        Did you actually found Snowflake hard? If so you were definitely doing something wrong. It’s supposed to become one of the easiest fights once you find how to win.

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        1. Frost

          I’m aware of the HP differences; I’ve seen the right one’s HP on epic and it’s not especially high. It should still go down very easily to a boosted black hole. Under ideal conditions (meaning with frozen and maximum magic defense debuff) black hole does about 45 million damage at level 36. You can’t freeze this one and it has a slight debuff resistance, along with slightly higher base m. defense, so you’ll be doing a little less than half of that – maybe even around a fourth, I don’t want to calculate the whole thing out. Even then it’s enough to kill it several times over. You could probably even skip some of the setup if it’s too difficult to pull off while it’s attacking you.

          Left’s higher HP is mostly irrelevant due to status, and their attacks would probably kill you quickly on either mode without resistance, morale, or auto-revive anyways.

          I was probably slightly underleveled for snowflake. Even using the “defending target” strategy with morale+auto revive+regen, it was a close fight. It used AOE attacks way more than single-target attacks as the fight went on, so the target status wasn’t as useful as it could have been.

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          1. CoffeeUser

            I don’t think the “ideal condition” is feasible. You can’t freeze them. And they have debuff resistance so you can’t reduce their Mdef by that much. That’s a 0.5^2 damage modifier already. And with that level I think they have much higher Mdef than the one you are comparing with. (If you are comparing with the level 20 dummy slimes. Or the glitch even.) I think after all those modifiers you can only deal less than 1/10 of that even after all the setups you can. And that’s only if you manage to do the setups without being absolutely murdered in the process.

            Have you tried to use weaken/tired? After those stacks to the maximum Snowflake can barely hit you and even if he did it tickles (assuming you have buffs up). Then just stack dot effects and stall the fight. Also you can’t be underleveled since he levels with you. With how much damage he deals uncontrolled I mourn for your target tanker.

          2. Frost

            You’re pretty much just repeating what I’ve already noted. They have very slight debuff resistance, certainly not enough to halve the overall damage. You can debuff their mdef by -60% with max debuff boosts as opposed to -80%. And their base mdef is 11 as opposed to the dummy slime’s 7. These, along with lack of freezing, are the only factors affecting your damage potential that are different from a dummy slime. -Maybe- it would quarter the maximum possible damage, at most. A quarter of 45 million damage is still more than enough.

            Here’s the setup:
            Natz with max buff boost equips
            Lance with max debuff boost equips
            Nobody else’s equips matter much

            1. Natz casts Star Power on herself to get max magic and good luck
            2. Matt casts Temper on her for brave
            3. Somebody else Encores Natz, then she switches to max dark+magic equips
            -foe’s turn-
            -switch the party to be Natz, Lance, and the weakener-
            4. Somebody besides Natz/Lance uses viking monolith
            5. That same person then uses whatever to weaken the foe
            6. Lance uses a maxed enfeeble for -60% mdef on the foe
            7. Lance staggers the foe (maybe use Oblivion for the extra damage)
            8. Natz uses the invisible summon on the foe
            9. Natz casts black hole, decimating it

            If you get lucky with the haste equip, you could also give the foe bad luck, but it’s probably not necessary. I’ll give this a shot myself later. You only have to get lucky and survive one attack. And I think there’s a good chance it wastes that turn buffing itself anyways.

          3. CoffeeUser

            Hmm, I seemed to have missed that part. Sorry.

            -80% defense 5x the damage while -60% defense only 2.5x it. So it’s certainly enough to halve the damage. But that defense difference is smaller than I have imagined. It might work. (The grand total multiplier is 0.5*0.5*7/11=~0.16. 0.16*45=7.2) But the foe’s evade is really high so you’ll have to spare one of the turns to debuff the evade first. Even then they might still occasionally miss. And you’ll have to get very lucky for the enemy to choose that buff out of 12 possible moves.

          4. Frost

            Just tried it, and it worked. Advice: have Anna as one of the leads (the encore user) and equip her with viking dress, tentacle, and stopwatch – if any one of those takes effect at the start, it eliminates the need to waste a turn using bind. In particular, if the viking dress lands, you can skip the foe taking a turn altogether (this ended up being what happened with my successful run.)

            Even when complications arose – debilitate missed entirely, leaving its magic defense untouched – black hole was still able to (just very, very barely) nuke it in one strike. If you pull off the whole strategy with no misses then it should be a surefire win; if you miss like I did then damage randomization -might- leave it with just a sliver of health, but you can clear that with another limit next turn. I got pretty lucky to be able to take it out before it could even make a move, but I don’t think it was insanely unlikely with this setup.

            All told it took maybe 10-20 (quick) resets (mostly just fleeing and rebattling) before viking dress took effect. From there you just need a bit of luck. Accuracy boosting equips could help.

            I went ahead and did the left on epic too, pretty much a cakewalk with Anna abusing freeze+stun.

          5. CoffeeUser

            I now know why their def was lower than I thought. Defense scales linearly in this game. Unlike the previous game where everything is exponential. That’s why instead of being squared like I thought it’s barely double from 20 to over 2x the level.

            As a nerf of your strategy is probably coming. (Random equip proc not being able to happen turn one/harder to inflict invisible.) I managed to beat that multiple times with different methods. The idea is that their damage is so high on epic that they can almost fill up your limit break bar by one attack. So you can spam limit breaks over and over. Further enhanced if you purposely equip in a way that your characters have low defense. But it’s not necessary to do that.

            Here’s the cheapest strat I’ve found. Build your team so that the team in turn two has at least 100% bio resistance. Turn one NoLegs use 9 lives. Summon Bone Bat/Fuzzy Worm. And Stumpy Gloop if you want. Turn two switch to Anna/Lance/Natalie. Use Mother Earth, Death Metal and Genesis and whenever available. If none of then is available be sure to at least have auto revive on Natalie. Then just stall the fight and done. You even get most of the sp you spent back. No randomness involved. Or every random event either doesn’t matter or just speeds it up.

            Ironically this doesn’t work on lower difficulties. Or so I thought. You can try if you want.

          6. CoffeeUser

            Modification: Save Genesis if your team has auto revive. In case of multiple multi-hit attacks.

          7. CoffeeUser

            Oh, and if two players have free turns or someone has haste cast Barrier + Blue Flybot to speed it up even more.

        2. Frost

          Even if my strategy is nerfed the way you describe, there’s still a way to to pull it off easily – considering it was still one-shot even without Enfeeble, I think you should be able to get away with not making it invisible if you pull off everything else. So just cast double monoliths to get everyone the turns they need instead of casting one monolith and one invisible. (You probably don’t need to bind it if you can’t fit that into the turns, since you should be able to reset very quickly if a move misses. Also, Black Hole and Oblivion both have high accuracy, so the only shaky checks are Enfeeble and the weakening move – those can be solved with high accuracy equips.) Probably the fastest method by far.

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  113. Stell

    Any clues on where to find the Turtle Shell for NoLegs? It’s the only piece of equipment I’m missing.

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    1. CoffeeUser

      It’s one of the rainbow secrets. I have found every piece of equipment in this game and recorded where they are. That’s why I am able to write out the corresponding equip’s location when someone asks.

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  114. DoingTheJukes

    I can’t seem to find 1 golden key or 1 diamond key, the sword on the second row 5th spot from the left, the last staff in row 1, the staff on the second row next to the fan, the third bow in the first row, the toys 1 away from the right side on both rows, the male hat on the second row 5 from the left, or the 2nd and 3rd female hats on the second row. Are these all just seasonal items for Christmas, Thanksgiving and some other holiday? Please help me out guys (or girls) :ooo:

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    1. CoffeeUser

      Try ctrl+f first for keys. It’s probably been answered multiple times.

      You find the sword and one of the staff in the last glitch area. That area has a unique theme. Did you assume nothing special is in it and walked away? Some people do that and it seriously confuses me.

      You get the clue to getting the other staff at a underground area at Wild Tropics. (One screen away from the Hope Harbor slime cat.) Everyone misses that staff.

      To find the bow first go to the Redpine steroid shop and chat with everyone for clue.

      I’m guessing that means second to last counting from left. Because I refuse to believe anyone can miss Dog Sausage.

      One of the Cat Toy is behind the last gold block.

      The other is one of the rainbow secrets. Talk to the NPC at Rainbow Gate and you’ll know what it is. Maybe you’ll even find the last diamond key by doing that.

      The hat is behind the last diamond block.

      Go to Iron Fortress for one of the female hat. And the other is near the entrance of Mystic Woods. Did you snooze at Mystic Woods or something?

      Also even not counting seasonal equips you might be missing even more. There are 15 weapon available for most of the players. With the exception of Lance, who has 16.

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      1. Stell

        All of the players have 16 weapons available in the free version, not just Lance. It sounds like you might be missing a few more yourself!

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          1. Knokke

            Depending on how long you’ve been playing, some updates to the beta version will have taken away a few weapons, armors, and flairs. I was missing at least 6 equipment myself because of some updates including, but not limited to, the green cross, the fan staff, the tentacle staff, skull and crossbones pin, wrath of Zeus(?), and more.

          2. CoffeeUser

            Yeah, the flair rearrangement did ruin some of the save files. My first file had Beholding Eye missing. (And it is missing. It’s no use getting back to the tree to get it back.) And the other had a bunch of missing flairs. Only way to fix it is to wait for the game to release and purchase it to access the new game + feature.

            I don’t think armors have been changed in any version though.

      2. DoingTheJukes

        I swear that I have searched every corner of the Iron Fortress and the last glitch area, but I can’t find anything more! (Also, is the last glitch area the one at Redpine or am I just blind?) :wut:

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        1. CoffeeUser

          It’s that one. Have you tried “walking up?” It’s an ancient technique that not many know.

          For the Iron Fortress one, it’s at the room where you got the snail mail quest. Or the room where the weather is “radiation.” Or the room where you met the first War Mammoth.

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          1. DoingTheJukes

            Alright, I have found all of the things. But, I have no clue what you mean by doing control+f to get the last golden key.

          2. CoffeeUser

            Ctrl + F is a shortcut (for Windows at least) to search for things. In browsers it searches the content in a page. So if you type in “Gold key” you can find everything in this page that have ever mentioned it. Sorry if you are using Mac. (Commend + F is the same thing there I think.)

            But whatever. I think I’ll list the location of all of them in case you are not missing that one.

            ❗ ❗ Spoilers ❗ ❗

            1. Hope Harbor Campsite.
            2. One of the crystal locations, the red one I think.
            3. Mystic Woods, one of the chests that requires leafy boots. Idk which.
            4. Frozen Valley, on the edge of the screen, possible to enter without the stones.
            5. Frozen Valley, turn around after you defeated the area boss.
            6. The Rapture, look for a hidden switch. There are clouds in that screen.

            If anyone asks about this in the future just tell them to ctrl + F.

  115. MasterBeardFist

    does anyone know where the water gem is and how to get to it? I’ve been looking for it for hours. Also, I seem to not be able to find the winged boots I know that they are in the rapture area but can’t seem to find them.

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    1. CoffeeUser

      There is a gem in each town. And no, Winged Boots is not in the Rapture. It’s in Forgotten Ruins

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